Saturday, November 14, 2009

How Long For Grecian Formula To Work

Arkeon and Gianni Leone journalism "Noantri" Their opinion

The Case Arkeon to date have been expressed and still express the different voices: the alleged victims, alleged perpetrators, witnesses, alleged victims of other alleged seven, students and scholars suspected of sectarian and religious phenomena, osservatori terzi, giornalisti. A questi recentemente si è aggiunta una nuova voce, appartenente si direbbe all’ultima categoria: il signor Gianni Leone della testata "MondoRaro".

Devo ammettere che, non avendolo prima mai sentito nominare, ho cominciato a conoscerlo solo da quando ha cominciato a scrivere di Arkeon.

Gianni Leone è intervenuto una prima volta con un articolo sulla "psicosetta" Arkeon , che in effetti non aggiunge nulla di nuovo a quanto già si sapeva: una lunga introduzione sul concetto di psicosetta (abbastanza vaga e inconsistente), seguita dalla dichiarazione di un’opinione personale certamente interessante ( “secondo la mia opinione Arkeon è a psycho-sect ") even if not supported by any argument, ending with a summary of a story (the indictment of 10 people Arkeon) a month and a half old (actually not even report the date of events) .

a second time and spoke with an article on the request for trial of a teacher accused of rape Arkeon ( "It looks like trouble for the cult" The Sacred Path ", which promoted the" method Arkeon " are far from a solution. The prosecutor in Milan John Polizzi has requested the indictment of the "master" xxxxx 67, accused of raping two women " ). The news, as it is reported, makes it seem that this is the umpteenth teacher caught red-handed, the last chapter in a sordid affair. Too bad that:
  • the prosecution (and not minor detail) and private violence and rape;
  • the news is even older than the previous one (as far back as July 2009, more than four months ago)
  • the teacher is not called in yet another case but the first witness called in question appeared in all the famous TV shows, from which everything that followed;

But most unfortunate that Leo does not report the biggest news contained in the ANSA that image ... that:

  • allegations related only to that teacher;
  • allegations related only to two specific events;
  • these events occurred not in a seminar but in his private residence

factors, those that show how the facts question does not concern either the "masters of Arkeon" neither "method Arkeon" but only the private behavior of a single person . A fact supported - and this is the last news that you forget Leone - excerpt from the position of this master from the largest trial of the other masters of Arkeon investigated. The news therefore confirms exactly what we go for years repeating many (teacher behaviors that do not relate to the group, I am indeed a betrayal) and the opposite of the view suggested by Cesap and apparently endorsed by Leo.

A third (and so far last) time Leone has intervened by publishing a letter from a student of Arkeon satisfied. Letter that, after an initial response that does not intervene in Friendly, followed by a lively exchange of comments posted on the Internet pages of the newspaper with the blogger Fioridarancio. Again Leone demonstrates that it is not very up to date on the facts (cites the closure of the Raffaella DiMarzio, in March 2008, lost, named Patrick, but also forgot to mention the re-opening nell’aprile 2008, ben 19 mesi fa). Il dibattito si conclude infine con un interrogatorio abbastanza surreale di Leone a Fioridarancio ( “Lei è per caso la moglie del fondatore di Arkeon?... lei è Patrizia Di Marzio? lei è una adepta o un adetpo di Arkeon?” ).

E’ curioso notare che il dibattito non si conclude per esaurimento, nè per una censura, ma in quanto a causa di “un problema al software sono misteriosamente spariti circa 40 commenti postati dagli utenti e dalla redazione. Ci scusiamo per il disagio, ma non sappiamo dare una spiegazione a questa “misteriosa” sparizione, che ha “colpito” anche la redazione” . Leone defines the disappearance "mysterious" (the quotation marks his), referring (I think) Arkeon assumption that someone was interested in the disappearance of an unwelcome debate. In fact, the disappearance appears misteriorsa, but rather because one would think that a newspaper has a back up of the site from which to retrieve the post (even I've got on this craft bloggetto). In any case, luckily someone Arkeon ( Peter) saved and republished the blog post , so we are convinced that the fact that after missing several days is just a matter of technical delays and certainly not of any complaint type.

must say that some doubts in this respect (censuretta) could rise to see the transparency policy adopted by Leo: After asserted the principle "freedom to post anonymously by users. Freedom not to answer on my part ", which tells Fioridarancio " or she is qualified or not will be allowed to post more comments "; choose to delete the links posted on his newspaper's supporters Arkeon ( the editors decided to black out, all those links that users enter, leading to sites that promote the method incriminated ") if it were a member of the world or a member of the Digos anti-cult and not a journalist who reported the information, perhaps to disassemble (for example on sito il caso arkeon il sito del cesap è linkato in diversi punti!).

Si potrebbe anche pensare che tale atteggiamento nasca da un pregiudizio di Leone contro Arkeon, un’indisponibilità a priori a valutare l’ipotesi che ci possa un pezzo della verità che non è nelle carte della Digos e che ancora lui non conosce…ma come pensarlo quando Leoni si limita a contestare “…le diarree mentali di un gruppo settario e per giunta sotto processo” e ribadisce che “I miei giudizi si basano su denunce e documenti e non su stronzate e deliri vari come quelli proposti dal “metodo Arkeon” ?!

Comunque, a tirar le fila, pur non condividendo Gianni Leone's ideas, I find that he / she will be able to say things more serious than being a rude-mannered person and a journalist from the information recently updated and very interested in exploring. Of course there is a serious issue still open: whether at least information that tells you (even if partial) really has or purports only. I am referring to when he asserts "I have a copy of the report of the Digos of 2008 and other documents. So I speak with documents in hand ... journalistically speaking, readers will form their own opinions and even when I will publish the next article on Arkeon, explaining more ... ". We hope that the article and that information finally come out, otherwise you might think that Leo publish outdated information because - not having their information - should expect to read in the papers of others. How do you say ... their opinion!

Thursday, November 5, 2009

Tape Up And Fade Haircut



Today I found online an online journal that publishes an article critical of Arkeon . I mention it not because I find it particularly relevant, for good or evil, but because it seems an excellent example of the journalism heard that rages in the network. I quote here the exchange spoke with a journalist.
For those interested, I report on the same magazine, another intervention - I say delusional - which witnesses Jehovah's , in which I invite you to read the exchange with other readers. You will notice that the subject of the journalist to respond to criticism is always the same: "Do not faccamo comparisons that show the inconsistencies of what I say."
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KLEE. Hi


In her article she gives a lengthy introduction on the concept of psycho "to get to say that in my opinion Arkeon is a psycho-sect, and certainly controversial with something unclear, gave himself that has been and is being of investigation.

It seems, however, that his definition of psycho is quite confusing. The concepts that you claim to be two elements of the standard psycho (indoctrination isolation) are in fact defined so vaguely that potrebberso fit (for example) the conversion of the saints and the cloistered life:
1) indoctrination: "total detachment from the old values \u200b\u200b(St. Francis who denies the richness and career of arms); submission methods and readings difficult to understand (he never read the Apocalypse of St. John?) encouraging respect for hierarchy and obedience, loyalty, adeguento the rules of the congregation (ca va sans say!).
2) isolation, "uprooting the family background of the subject (think of the nuns), remove their privacy and" confide " with other followers (think of the nuns), some psycho-sect then there is also a financial dependency (think of the nuns).

Also, when you also share his definition of a psycho, it seems thought the Scientology case, and seems to adapt very little to chance Arkeon that you take for example. It 'difficult to understand in fact what could be the insulation in a path based not on a community, but on a two-day seminars are held 3 or 4 times a year (as I have already expressed indoctrination).

This leads me to believe that what she calls his "opinion" on the case Arkeon is not based on knowledge diretta di Arkeon, ma più probabilmente su fonti indirette: probabilmente ciò che viene riportato da articoli di altri giornalisti o pareri di alcuni “studiosi” (per altro parte in causa nella vicenda Arkeon). Cioè la sua opinione sarebbe in effetti la loro opinione.

Forse ha letto anche gli atti giudiziari del rinvio a giudizio degli indagati di Arkeon e magari alcune testimonianze delle presunte vittime. Anche se questi vengono di solito chiamati fatti, in effetti non lo sono: un rinvio dice solo che l’accusa crede ci sia un reato e le testimonianze dicono solo che il testimone afferma delle cose…purtroppo la cronaca giudiziaria è piena di PM che prendono cantonate e di testimoni confusi o che dicono il falso. You can talk about facts when it comes to the end of a process. And even then only talking about legal truth.

Many journalists, in the three years since the beginning of this story, have lined up to explain to those who came before and what are the psycho Arkeon what they knew. Journalists and leading journalists on Sunday. If he wanted to make a different contribution and not just tag along, you may also try searching for evidence by the opposing party. Because the point is not whether there are seven or psiscosette: if the abstract idea is that there are facts has anything to do with individual companies that happen to us before our eyes, and that seems to look even. In If the court to read the site http://ilcasoarkeon.wordpress.com/


JOURNALIST
Hi, my articles
them sign and also my face. She criticizes my views remain anonymous. Legitimate choice is clear, however, if the object of criticism is what I write, you should make, at least for a form of courtesy ... Honestly
his speech and rhetoric for its own sake, do not see why you should make a comparison between Arkeon , Scientology and the Church. There are three different things and I find it inappropriate comparison. As it is decidedly at odds with Scientology, I never made any comparison with other groups, congregations or religious communities. In this
article speaks of Arkeon. If it operates on the subject there are no problems if he continues to make inappropriate comparisons, his comments will not be published.

What can I say? You are free to remain anonymous and to criticize my articles. But if he wants a response by the undersigned with respect to his claims, must be presented.
Sincerely.

KLEE
Mine is not a rhetorical intervention. I ask if - when he claims to have done a review in which he writes and publishes a magazine that his opinion - to clarify on what basis has made this view. Because from what transpires says that she probably has no direct knowledge but only indirectly to what he writes. And then I would understand if his sources are indirect printing (I say that he says they say ...) or have consulted some documents.

I would say instead of its article was rhetorical. Makes statements such as that already given, so vague as to be suits the most diverse situations. And when the third are some examples that just should not hit anything but well within its definition in order to highlight the generic, she says that is not relevant. If you do not agree on the merits, I will respond in the matter.

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